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#1 Tuesday 4th of November 2008 06:06:53

KamranM
Member

What is the significance of 2012 ?

There is a lot of discussion about the year 2012 and how some significant and terrible events will happen then and some people also say the World as we know it is going to End in 2012.  There is plenty of scientific evidence that is being put forward and a lot of information from the ancient Pyramids.

Has anyone else out there looked into this?

Would like to hear from you.

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#2 Wednesday 5th of November 2008 06:02:13

Sana
Guest

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

there are a lot of people talking about 2012. from what i have looked into, it is all about the Sunspot cycles.

A sunspot is a radiation flare from solar storms on the sun. These storms last thousands and millions of years and have a regular pattern that cycles. each small cycle is like 11 years but there are bigger cycles. the bigeest one is estimated to be 4824 years or something.

The aztecs, mayans and egyptians - all of who built pyramids and left pictorial references to the sun and sunspot cycles - were separated by about 5000 years each...and each of these civilisations died out !!

We still don't have the technology to build the Pyramids!!! How will we fare?

#3 Wednesday 5th of November 2008 06:59:15

Sheena
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

Kamran is an odd name for a black dude! and it's even odder that you are on a pakistani forum?

r u really worried that the world is gonna end in 2012? this is the first i've heard about it?

if the sun has spots, then maybe it should eat less chocolate!!! ;-)

no but seriously, Sana, what you said is a bit scary...do you really think this is real..or is it just another doom story?

i'm scared now !!! thanks !!

#4 Wednesday 5th of November 2008 07:07:06

Sana
Guest

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

ummm, yes Sheena, (I love your picture btw xox)  I think it is a bit scary but it is based on scientific fact so I dunno what to think. seems strange to think that only a few years from now things may get so bad that millions and millions of people are going to die.

if ONLY the sun would eat less chocolate !! *** sigh ***

the peak of the next BIG sunspot cycle falls towards the end of 2012 and it will be in the form of a HUGE SOLAR flare from our sun. The heat and radiation from this flare will be immense and the effects are unpredictable but amongst the possibilities are the following :

1: overheating of the earths atmosphere as the thin ionosphere which protects the earth from normal levels of heat will not be enough to shield it from a super solar flare.

2: massive radiation for the duration of the sloar flar which could be years. this could cause immediate or slow death or at the VERY LEAST severe infertility problems causing a death by attrition of life on earth.

3: the magnetic fields of the earth may be severely affected. Geologists have discovered whilst examining core samples from the earth that the North and South Poles of the earth have changed at least twice in the past. No-one really know what effect this would have and whether the earth would flip over (quickly or slowly) or whether it will cause huge upheavals of landmass causing earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves, megastorms etc.

#5 Wednesday 5th of November 2008 09:15:42

admin
Administrator

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

NASA has already observed shifting magnetic field patterns on the earth over the last century and there are certain areas where this has caused compasses to indicate false readings (the Bermuda Triangle is a known affected area).

If the solar flare is to hit Earth in 2012, it has already occurred many years ago and it is already on it's way to earth so the highest speed radiation from the flare could be the reason for the early effects to already be noticed. The recent increase in earthquakes, superstorms, shifting weather patterns etc. could all be down to this.

So, scientific evidence does point to 2012 as a catastrophic year for Earth. The question is whether the natural effects will slowly increase going towards 2012 with more storms and earthquakes each year or whether the effect will be a catastrophic on.

Will human beings survive...well they have in the past

What are you going to do to prepare for it?

ps. some say that that the heiroglyphics on the Pyramids indicate an astronomical event that is going to occur in 2012 but that it is not the end of the world but just an important astronomical event...possibly an as yet unknown planet/comet passing through our solar system

#6 Thursday 6th of November 2008 05:47:44

KamranM
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

Sheena,

Never judge someone by a picture?  And why can't a "BLACK" dude have a name like Kamran?  I love Pakistan that's why I am on the Forum.

By the way is that actually you in the pic, or someone else ;-)

#7 Thursday 6th of November 2008 06:35:45

Sheena
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

o'kay ? lol. i looked on the user list and everyone is a black dude!!! hahaahaha. and yes that was me in the pic. i tried to upload a new one but it's not working????

#8 Thursday 6th of November 2008 06:55:36

Sheena
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

oic, i had to refresh the page, it's working now. good thing too if the world is going to end in 2012. Sana, admin and kamran, you r really scaring me know..it can't be real otherwise everyone would know about it and everyone would be going crazy !!!!!!!!!

if nasa are so sure then why aren't they doing anything about it?

#9 Thursday 6th of November 2008 07:08:44

admin
Administrator

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

Knowing about it and doing something about it are two different things. I don't thing that NASA or anyone else can actually DO ANYTHING about solar flares. You have to remember that the Mayans, Egyptians and Aztecs were pretty advanced civilizations and accomplished certain things that we can't.
This is probably the reason that there is very little "official" acknowledgement of this from the authorities. It would just cause mass panic.

There is actually a LOT of information on the internet about this with variations from aliens arriving in 2012, the return of Jesus etc etc. The common theme in all of these various stories is the year 2012 and they all are somehow linked to the stories from the various Pyramids revolving around planetary events involving the Sun.

Sana's version is the one that I think is most likely but I personally don't think that the word will END...it'll probably just go through some major natural calamities like the earthquakes and storms and stuff...this has been happening more and more frequently each year anyway and for us in Pakistan, we still remember the earthquake in 2005 which was pretty devstating and there has been another one in Balochistan a couple of weeks back.

Hurrican Katrina and others like it have been more frequent aswell in all parts of the world. Sheena, you are in Florida, you must have seen a difference in the weather. Kamran in the UK, you've often mentioned that the weather is going crazy. (Sana, please register so we can know more about you and your part of the world)

No-one really knows for sure EXACTLY what is going to happen but there is too much speculation about 2012 for it to be a nothing.

Maybe I'll build a HUGE basement/bunker somewhere and get it stocked up with the essentials just in case !! ;-)

#10 Friday 7th of November 2008 13:33:14

Sheena
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

i was reading on another website that theres a planet X that is due to come close to the earth around 2012. The guy who is redicting this is Zakaria Sitchin. Have you guys heard anything about this?

#11 Friday 7th of November 2008 13:40:37

admin
Administrator

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

Sana wrote:

3: the magnetic fields of the earth may be severely affected. Geologists have discovered whilst examining core samples from the earth that the North and South Poles of the earth have changed at least twice in the past. No-one really know what effect this would have and whether the earth would flip over (quickly or slowly) or whether it will cause huge upheavals of landmass causing earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves, megastorms etc.

Sana, here is an interesting aspect of your 3rd point that may indicate that the Pole reversal may occur. Europa has a different makeup to Earth and may have already been affected by the sunspots

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"ScienceDaily (May 15, 2008) — Washington, D.C.--Curved features on Jupiter's moon Europa may indicate that its poles have wandered by almost 90°, report scientists from the Carnegie Institution, Lunar and Planetary Institute, and University of California, Santa Cruz in the 15 May issue of Nature. Such an extreme shift suggests the existence of an internal liquid ocean beneath the icy crust, which could help build the case for Europa as possible habitat for extraterrestrial life.

"By comparing the pattern of the depressions with fractures that would result from stresses caused by a shift in Europa's rotational axis, the researchers determined that the axis had shifted by approximately 80°. The previous axis of rotation is now located about 10° from the present equator.

The drastic shift in Europa's rotational axis was likely a result of the build-up of thick ice at the poles. "A spinning body is most stable with its mass farthest from its spin axis," says Matsuyama. "On Europa, variations in the thickness of its outer shell caused a mass imbalance, so the rotation axis reoriented to a new stable state."

Such a change is called "true polar wander" as opposed to apparent polar wander caused by plate tectonics. There is evidence for true polar wander on Earth, and also on Mars and on Saturn's moon Enceladus. "Our study adds Europa to this list," says Matsuyama. "It suggests that planetary bodies might be more prone to reorientation than we thought."


In the above article they imply the axis shift was caused by a buildup of ice at the poles, when in reality there is no weather on Europa. Taken in view of what you have said about the sunspots possible effects, this may be a precursor of whats to come on Earth. Europa is BIGGER than Earth I believe !!

#12 Monday 10th of November 2008 08:15:52

Pristine
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

The stuff by Zacharia Sitchin is pretty interesting aswell. His theory is that life on earth was seeded by an alien civilisation who live on Planet X. Apparently Planet X passes through our solar system every XXXXX number of years and the next time will be 2012. Even though this sounds FAR OUT, the way he has linked a number of past events make very interesting reading.

A good one was where he talks about Noahs Ark and the great flood. His version is that the ARK was a genetic seedbank in which male and female genes of every species of plant and animal were stored so that they could be re-engineered after the turmoil of the Great Flood settled. Now the religious version of this is similar but has illogical aspects to it which are countered by the seedbank theory. You couldn't really build a boat big enough to take the actuall animals AND food for them for 40 days AND stop them from fighting and eating each other.

Even today, there are such projects where genes and seedbanks are being created by governments "JUST IN CASE' of some natural calamity...one is in Norway and funnily enough it is called an Ark!!

Maybe there is some truth to this. It is certainly within the remit of Islam that Allah provided advanced knowledge of such things to Noah and we already know that there existed advanced civilizations way before our current one.

Whatever the truth is, it certainly is VERY interesting.

Last edited by Pristine (Monday 10th of November 2008 08:26:15)

#13 Monday 10th of November 2008 10:55:37

Sheena
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

errrr..aliens huh?

#14 Monday 17th of November 2008 08:13:44

Airforce Guy
Guest

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

I've actually been to these tunnels in Norway during an official visit to the country. Delegate were briefly shown around the less secretive parts of this compound. To the untrained person, you'd not know that you were so far undergraound as the size of this facility is impressive. I didn't realise that there was so much inforation re 2012 ploating around. I thought it was only in the higher official circles. Theres not much anyone can do about it and theres no garantee that these underground bunkers around the world will be of much use but still its something and will save a lot of people but the question is who will be saved and who decides?

#15 Sunday 23rd of November 2008 14:48:00

Sheena
Member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

you can't be serious surely we would all know about this stuff if governments have been building underground cities :O:O
and you are rght how dare THEY think they can decide who is going to be able to use these facilities if theres a major catastrope in 2012
meteors or aliens or radiation  it doesn't really matter what but i have started seeing a lot of stuff about 2012 now and it looks like there definitely something gonna happen sad

#16 Wednesday 3rd of December 2008 05:50:17

shuggie
New member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

do read all the document i sent, admin!!!

#17 Wednesday 3rd of December 2008 05:59:49

shuggie
New member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

its gonna be an atomic war probably, May God have mercy

#18 Thursday 11th of December 2008 10:17:41

Karim
New member

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

NUCKLEAR war might be happening very much sooner than 2012 if India and Pakistan carry on this way..and it won't just be in this region, it'll be everywhere..there are enough suitcase bombs sold by korea and iran to amke it easy to attack any city in the world

#19 Thursday 1st of January 2009 08:49:36

CB
Guest

Re: What is the significance of 2012 ?

Now that 2009 has arrived we are one step closer to 2012...personally i can't wait becoz if there is a major catastrophy that affects the whole planet, it will be a great leveller and the Americans and Israelis oppression of the world will be stopped by the Almighty.

If nothing happens in 2012, I will be disappointed

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